According to your logic, if Dad can only find one day a month to be in his kids life, Mom should be expected to feed Kid 3 meals a day, drive Kid everywhere, pay for school costs, etc. Then I got supervisor rights. How does that make it a mediation if he basically says that it is unlikely. But goes to Vegas and Cancun all the time.. and when he takes the kid , he makes him babysit so he and his new wife can go and get drunk on a bar and party. There is also little evidence to suggest dads cant learn all of moms behaviors normally associated with child rearing. I just dont get it.. As a woman, I am personally sick of certain women( not all) taking good honest men for all their worth just because these men had had children with them. She left without my knowing over three years ago from Texas to Pennsylvania and I have not seen my now 16 year old since. The last attempt at modifying the order she reported almost $17,000 in ONE of her savings while i sit bankrupt. Current Child Support Laws Are a Barrier to True Shared ParentingExcellent article. It just goes to show you. KS sucksSupposedly we are a 50/50 state, but that is only if both parents agree. I tried to get food stamps so I could afford groceries, but I was denied because she has a food stamp case open. It defies logic on so many levels How come they dont make married families and singles on welfare, pay it back????? Men should have equal access to their children until its proven they arent worthy of equal time. Men are allowed to get off way to easily. Government has been given too too much power. Dont reproduce with someone who cant support a child if you dont want to have to pay back welfare, its really that simple. Child supp0rt took almost all he made leaving us with a home in disrepair, while she took vacations on that money we were sending her!! Im going through this right now with to kids from different mothers and I dont Kno what to do or where to start il love my kids dearly and would give my right and left arm for either one of them when I went to court I was so nervous and ashamed I was all alone and the judge belittled me in front of all those people there was nothing I could do when I went to the court house that day I spoke to a lady and she gave me figures of what I had to pay as she did for everyone that came in ..all smiles and everything little did I Kno she was the one the would be trying to hang me out to dry! I encourage our law makers to do whats right and truely make the necessary changes. While the government is very efficient with its enforcement of child support laws, it might be more beneficial to address its child custody statutes. Federal law says they cant take your passport or licenses away. Being an advocate for family law reform, I can assure you that there are 10s of thousands of guys who would agree with him. Often times child support is breaking the bond with fathers and their children because payments are so expensive that we fathers may not even have enough gas to visit. Now take half your paycheck and give it to the next person you see. Seriously if I end up in jail for failure to pay the full amount owed in Child support. Nobody is entitled to the fruits of someone elses labor, Legally. Why is society complaining about the mothers when there are clearly more fathers claiming to be degenerate and allowed to move on and breed more families, thereby, adding to the pain of the children they have. Ive always said and many women will disagree but if the father wants to give me money then so be it but if he doesnt o well. I got them because of their mother crazy action. Have a physical confrontation with wife and/or children. Someone in charge needs to change the system. A single person can not live off of 12,000 a year. How is this at all even remotely in the best interest of the child? I left I did not wake them. These guidelines are applied unless a party can show that the application of the . Recent studies show impairment in brain development when children are thrust into these environments (and no, I do not believe that the system is outdated. Involvement and support are dealt with completely separately. So that leaves me with 2400 for food, clothing, gas, electricity and God forbid any other unforseen expense. If doesnt have money to have comfortable life then would you consider him to be in relationship, I dont think many women would. The child support system was originally a bipartisan policy reform designed to serve divorced parents who were steadily employed. if parents agree on extra circular activities than both need to pay for it. By your argument, its okay to force a parent into poverty because they had a child and couldnt keep a marriage together.. Thats not flawed at all.. Hes tried to run over my kids and myself more than once. My key did not work, she changed the lock out I knew nothing about this. I am facing the loss of my contractors license, drivers license, garnishing of my bank account and jail time because I cannot afford to pay the unfairly and grossly inaccurately calculated child support obligation. I believe the states couldnt care less about whether your child is supported. The order also stated I was over $20,000 in debt, my passport was revoked, tax refunds began being intercepted, 40% of paycheck garnished the list goes on. Individuals like myself work hard to be a part of our childs life, make our payments and stay on amicable terms with the other parents only to be drug over the coals simply because they state wants to recover their losses. Even if she makes 2-3 more an hour her house nite is more than one of he paychecks lol. She went to my nieces house with her daughter to get away from him for a week and when she went back he kicked her out. I think the takeaway from all of these comments is there is no standard situation. 3) It would help to listen to Tom Leykis on line. Children are merely a piece of furniture to be split and distributed. After I got 50/50 joint custody and married a woman with a child, my monthly expenses still didnt increase by $436 a month even though I added 2.5 people to my household. The state uses federal matching funds from teh federal taxpayer to balance their budgets. oh ya.. that is not bitterness that is a fact. Sorry I missed payments for a while, here is a new car for you. My son graduated 2 weeks ago ,lives with her,works 2 jobs and is 18. Simply, it's an attack on the nature of a father's freedom and how he best wishes to raise and support . You should consider how the father daughter relationship was during those two first years. takes time and energy, and employers pay higher salaries to employees whore available for work anytime, can travel, etc. They are turning our children into disrespectful, hateful, unappreciative, entitled, narcissitic young adults who lack empathy, and have learned to lie cheat and steal as long as it is a means to their end, without remorse, without morals, standards, or integrity. From that moment on, I accrued interest on that 16,000with an astronomical percentage, and have also paid OVER 50% of my checksince Ive been 18. The more child support the states collect, the more profit the state makes from the federal government for collecting child support. While a minor is taking care of another minor home alone at night.. I was my kids only involved parent, only disciplinary, only actual oarticipator in their rearing. Im with you my wife cheated and im the bad guy?!? If guys can go around have kids all over the place without facing consequences for their actions then yeah something should be done about that. Also when the now ex wife gets the house hes not able to afford a new one due to child support being what a house payment is. Reform Family Law and Family Courts And just because he doesnt give me anything I dont throw fits, Im actually happy that at least he trys to get involved in my kids life. He was threatening, abusive, pulled guns on me. I left because of the alcohol abuse, his nonchalant, laissez-faire approach to work, life, family and our relationship. You shouldve taken pictures of those. So if your work schedule interferes, its okay to leave the kid at Moms until it works better for you, right? (get this , that makes it off the record). Thats it! Welcome to the Fathers for Equal Rights Child Support Information Center. its four times more deadly for a man then. I sat and watched a judge laugh it up all buddy-buddy with 3 dads behind on support. One was 17 at the time, another 14, and another 7. The strange thing is that in all the years I have been reading the enormous (and ever-growing) volume of statutes, rules and cases on child support/maintenance, never have I found anything that says that fathers should be treated less fairly than mothers. This is killing me cause Im thinking how could she do something like that since we havent been happy together for such a long time. KS and LindseyDont know if your following. We live in a society where women are above men. Your judgement obviously stinks! The system is broken! Please see both: http://www.fathersunite.org/Child%20Support%20Incentive%20Abuse%20Report.pdf and https://web.archive.org/web/20150219014614/http://answerisland.com/child-support-kickbacks.html. Fathers Against unfair Child support and jail time over support Am I wrong for not communicating with him at all? Worth a sacrifics in the long run but the counter support for him, can come from me. Eager for a fresh perspective. Being that Ive paid half of my check for 19 years, and still cant meet the minimum paymentall of my debt is all accrued interest. Get an attorney. My story? I believe in equal rights but for every gender, race or religion. The great news is that you are already aware of the problem being 50/50 custody and split households. that support is paid based on gross income of the father. From reading your comments it sounds like you are having a problem separating your feelings about your ex from your feelings about him as a father. Giana Messore licensed in AR only Little Rock, AR. Remember you chose who you wanted to mate with you were not force like in some countries where human rights do not exist. Not to mention she has a college education and substitute teaching certificate I work construction so my hours dont reflect yearly pay. I work for the CS system in CA. Their mother made every situation so impossible, add drinking a prescription pills into the mix, then a court system that always gives the mom the upper hand even with criminal convictions and documented suicidal tendencies, there is no analysis of the entire situation or consideration for the good of the children beyond the support dollars. When my ex physically punched me several times in the back of the head while 6 months pregnant, what police officer would believe me. My wife decided to have an affair and marry the guy. This includes food, health insurance, transportation to school, and one third of the utilities. Two brain surgeries later, a programmable PE shunt placement, a shunt revision a year later due to it malfunctioning and 5.5 weeks of extensive radiation now my daughter is legally blind. And when they were small kept them 3 days a week! Because the custodial parent (90% of the time being women). I could not drive. Under the current child support "guidelines" the following factors are RARELY considered by a judge when he or she sets a child support amount: The amount of time each parent has physical custody of the child. This way the parent can still continue to pay and the child doesnt suffer. You are bitter because you lost your son 50% of the time. It was the father that busted the door down and found the boy. She also has full medical from me. Out dated systemI have 2 boys and share time with them 50/50. Abolish the systematic allotment of support without enforcing Shared Parenting But now she is taking me to court for past amounts as she knows she can get money. So enter a judges job But its just a job to the judge so status quo is what you get. No offense to your kids mom (mine is the same way), but shes probably a loser just like my ex. Since presumption of guilt is there, it take 5-10 yrs just to prove that the case is fake. In my state the father is subject to license suspension, penalties and fines, and jail time if the support amount is not current. If child support didnt exist then the parent that wanted to be there for the kid would be. Now he making more and can fight it but that will take money out of the mouth of his other son. Both parents income IS EXACTLY WHAT GENERATES THE AMOUNT THE COURTS DEFINE AS NECESSARY. Remember boys never love them , or impregnate them , and under no circumstances shall you sign the marriage certificate . She got pregnant immediately and left when the baby was just 6 months old and moved 5 hours away. I live about 25 miles outside of Cincinnati Ohio. There must be no good men because 90% of custody cases are awarded to women. Stops going to daycare? Also dont forget how much the attorneys are making off this gig, pitting parents against each other. He got him a girlfriend and he lets his daughter live with his girlfriends dad and uncle and her two little daughters. I know a fact that this lady does not use child support money on our child, she uses it on alcohol and other things that have nothing to do with the child, but hey I digress. I sooo agree with you on this!!! A woman can do anything a man can do, right? I know women have a monopoly on victimhood, however, its ok to see men as victims for once. If I was still with the woman, and I was laid off for a period of time, would she, being in the same house with me, be punishing me for not having a job by billing me thousands of dollars more? The first words out of the judges mouth were incarceration! And amid my screaming bloody murder i eventually heard him offer a perge of $1300 and 2 weeks to pay it in. In most states they base the child support on the income of the father . But again, divorce employs too many people. Its about FATHERs rights. Im better, No, Im better. 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