It really just doesnt make any sense., Sheriff Warwick agreed that the circumstances were suspicious. I didnt think it was impossible, but I thought it was unrealistic. Definitely. They had basically confessed, telling several people over the years about what had happened, and no one did anything. By this point, the threadbare veil of professionalism that I manage to maintain most some of the time had melted away. [2] [3] [4] [5] Early life [ edit] Lindsey was born and raised in Kennesaw, Georgia. Making a podcast brought Payne Lindsey into places he never thought he would be: "Good Morning America," being subpoenaed for a murder trial, digging under a home for bones, reaching. Gail Russell Caldwell/FacebookSheriff Warwick searched more than 60 Crestone mine shafts for Kristal Reisingers body. She didn't know any names, she said,because theyare "pretty good at hiding who they are. Payne, however, was forced to leave the scene because Dean Fleck was screaming and fighting. [8], In December 2015, Netflix released Making a Murderer. There was always the small chance that she had left on her own, was living somewhere and was happy. But as with every case, the atmosphere was far from jubilant. Thats what I meant to say. Four decades later, we still dont know the whole story, but we aim to find out. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Thanks to Up and Vanished and the team at Tenderfoot TV, Kasha will have a $30k trust fund to use for living expenses, healthcare, college, or whatever her heart desires when the time is right. Throughout his investigation into the 2016 disappearance of Kristal Reisinger, "Up and Vanished" podcast host Payne Lindsey kept coming across one name John Keenan, a man who goes by the moniker "Catfish John." Over the course of the next few months, episodes dissected key pieces of evidence and looked into possible suspects (including Tara's ex-boyfriend, a former student who claimed to have an intimate relationship with her that she once called the cops on, a married man she was allegedly having an affair with, a man she went on a few dates with before her disappearance, etc.). Instead, she vanished into thin air. And that was just the end of the first episode. Maybe between Payne's divorce and new Oxygen stardom, there was no room for other wanna be stars in the Tenderfoot limelight. I had to be ahead of the curve and be the first to get information, scrap some things I was looking into that werent so important, and completely change up what I was doing. Are the roles switched? Life after the Duke/ses has been slightly different than life before. Iirc he was also charged for possession of meth at the same time, but I don't know the result of that/whether he is currently in jail. Are they more involved, less involved? After performing over 300 shows on Broadway Keean moved . But Payne's investigation probably wouldn't even have started if private investigator Dr.Maurice Godwin hadn't seen Payne's Websleuth posting and contacted him, revealing he had been working on the case since 2006 and was willing to share everything he had on what was the "largest case file in Georgia history" after he was hired by Anita, Tara's sister, five months after she went missing. Two months later, Bowasindicted on charges including concealing a death, tampering with evidence, and hindering apprehension of a criminal. After a resounding outcry from residents and true crime enthusiasts following the case, the judge amended the gag order to apply to only law enforcement, the suspects, and a select few individuals. She even started singing with a local band called Stimulus. But Taras family and the people of Ocilla have waited twelve years for justice. But the truth has proved elusive to this day. How did a beloved beauty queen-turned-beloved high school teacher disappear from her well-known home, in a tiny town, with neighbors just feet away, without anyone in such a small town hearing, seeing, or knowing anything? Facebook gives people the power. Under Tenderfoot TV, Lindsey will take on a new case in Up and Vanished: Season 2, take his documentary skillset to the TV screen with a docu-series for Up and Vanished in development with Oxygen, as well as investigate the infamous Atlanta Child Murders in a brand-new podcast Atlanta Monster. The core of Lindseys work, whether it is investigating, podcasting, or directing, continues to be storytelling that serves as a catalyst for change. On Oct. 22, Tara attended a friend's barbecue just eight blocks away from her apartment after visiting a beauty pageant earlier in the day. With or without a resolution into Kristal's disappearance, Up and Vanished made sure that the tragic story had a happy ending by making sure one very important person would be taken care of: her daughter, Akasha. In 2016, Kristal Anne Reisinger moved to the tiny Colorado town of Crestone seeking spiritual enlightenment. Follow along as host Payne Lindsey, a filmmaker turned amateur investigator, examines old case evidence and re-interviews persons of interest. "She was extremely distraught, and I said, 'What is going on? But none would come. That is until Up and Vanished shone an unavoidable light on it in the summer of 2016, renewing interest in the decade-old unsolved mystery of the disappearing beauty queen. Payne attacked the Flecks with a hammer, and he told the police that he attacked them because he wanted to incapacitate Ms. Fleck and take her elsewhere to rape her. . There was even a $20,000 reward on offer. You ask again later, and you get a blank stare from them, and two days later on Wednesday they show you the body. The podcast was co-produced by Tenderfoot TV and HowStuffWorks.. On January 8, 2019, the podcast released a second season. When McDonald realized she hadnt seen Reisinger in a while, she knocked on the apartment door and entered when it went unanswered. For more information, please see our The city and the country were at a loss for answers. So I stumbled through a question that, according to the audio, went something like this: I was impressed with the uh. We investigate the true story of the Atlanta child murders. The battery was dead, but after a quick charge McDonald listened to some of her voicemails and, she said, "from what was on her phone, it seems like she was on her way someplace. Its been a roller-coaster ride, he answers with what sounds like part bewilderment and part well-earned pride. The podcast quickly drew attention, both in South Georgia and nationwide. True crime podcast Up and Vanished may have wrapped up its second season this week, but show host Payne Lindsey . Keeping a filter on everything that comes his way. TheGeorgia Bureau of Investigation(GBI) was soon brought in after it was clear something was definitely wrong. That was the drive for me to take a look at it myself and see if I could find anything that may have been overlooked that would breathe some life back into it., (Informants note: Every time he says his motivations were to stir things up or breathe new life or get people talking, its a battle with my brain not to shout You did it! and throw confetti in the air.). SECOND URGENT QUESTION SENT TO JOHN KEENAN YESTERDAY AFTER NEW MESSAGE SUBMITTED BY A PRIEST "Pat, Fr Xxxxxx Xxxxxx was the priest bringing rent boys into the presbytery. Godwin became a friend to Payne and regularly appears on Up and Vanished to provide new insights into the case. With piercing blue eyes and endless curiosity, she fit right in. Shampoo and conditioner were new in the shower. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. (E! "But now, just a few days ago, Brooke did an exclusive televised interview with the CBS show 48 Hours, taking credit for having solved this case. Its been crazy. But he knew what he wanted to do. "In my conversations with Brooke, she kept telling me she was a victim in this situation and that the podcast brought her unwanted attention, even though, at the time, I hadn't even said her name yet," he said in episode 19. In my opinion, its having a negative effect on the town and the case. I started UP AND VANISHED years ago and hated it. After helping his brother with his first case as much as possible, Lindsey transitioned into working as a producer, all while balancing classes for his bachelors degree in business. The two eventually broke up, but they happily co-parented Kasha together. [7] He attended college on and off for a few years, but hated school. [confetti!] Though we learned a lot about the mysterious town of Crestone, Colorado, and the eccentric life Kristal Anne Reisenger led before she went missing in July 2016, there was no solid resolution to her tragic story. And how did the police ultimately come to arrest him? The same source claimed he was also on suicide watch again after his 2017 arrest. And to suppress my urge to jump around the room scream-giggling with every interview. Wikimedia CommonsKristal Reisinger disappeared in a town of fewer than 150 people. '", "To this day,"Guana added, "[Kasha]still asks for her, wants to call her on the phone. Payne Lindsey is an American director, documentary filmmaker, Right Side of the Tree lead singer and podcast host. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. So I just don't try to read into it that much.". "Among other things, Bo Dukes graciously declared that I didn't owe him an apology, but he did accuse me of being biased and 'downright false in my interviews.' Well, two years and 240 million downloads later, Lindsey is one of the most well-known true crime podcast host and producers. By January 30, 2017,Payne had released 12 episodes of Up and Vanished, along with seven special case evidence mini-episodes. But which one is the real killer? UAV and Sworn were both shit shows. [22] As of June 2019, the company had over 400 million total downloads for its podcasts. In 2018, Payne Lindsey tackled Reisinger's disappearance in the second season of his hit podcast Up and Vanished, and now the Oxygen series of the same name has returned to Crestone to seek. All rights reserved. [10] At the time, Lindsey's intentions were to develop Grinstead's story into a documentary film, but he realized he did not have the funds to film interviews on location. Payne Lindsey is an Atlanta-based director, award-winning documentary filmmaker, and the co-creator and host of the hit podcast Up and Vanished. Driven by a new found passion for both the true crime genre and investigative journalism, Lindsey decided to investigate the disappearance of beauty queen and school teacher Tara Grinstead, a notorious decade-old cold case from South Georgia. "As we get new information and get closer to the definitive answers, it will allow us time for law enforcement to investigate it some more, and for us to do a solid follow-up in the near future," Lindsey shared, though he confirmed no specific plans had been set into motion for a potential follow up just yet. The cold case was the largest case file in the Georgia Bureau of Investigations history, with no arrests in 11 years. Actor: Alita: Battle Angel. The True Crime File is perfect for those just beginning to explore the thrilling vagaries of true crime and also provides a new lens for fans who have been delving into the subject for years. Her motto was do no harm. Join Facebook to connect with John Keenan and others you may know. Cookie Notice "Right after she disappeared, a couple weeks after she disappeared, there was a party and this kid was talking, eavesdrop, he was talking about having killed Tara and dropped her body in a pecan orchard in Fitzgerald.". Within a 12-month period the podcast received over 50 million downloads,[13] which propelled Grinstead's case into the mainstream[14] media. "Veggie burgers and almond milk. Forgive me though, its been a while since Ive listened to UAV so I might be forgetting something he did. From what was on her phone, it seems like she was on her way someplace, said McDonald. Why? Keean Johnson. But when Payne Lindsey Or was he actually covering up his own murder, pinning it on his old buddy, who was living with him at the time? "We're not saying it is [foul play], but there is always that chance," Saguache County Sheriff Dan Warwick told Fox 31 Problem Solvers,the investigative team from Denver's Channel 2 News, in 2017. And in episode 18, which was released in May 2017, just beforeBo's indictment, Brooke broke her silence, agreeing to talk to Lindsey on the record for the podcast, and the interview was filled with tension as Brooke sort of tried to justify Bo going along with Ryan's plan and keeping such a horrible secret for over a decade. His voice perks up at the chance to discuss his upcoming session. "I can't overanalyze everything someone like Catfish is telling me, because some of it is not even supposed to make any sense," Lindsey explained, adding that he thinks Catfish was trying to confuse him at times. One of the first people he met was Dr. Maurice Godwin, a forensic investigator from North Carolina whom the Grinstead family hired to examine the case independently. Left: Kevin Leland/Facebook; Right: Overlander.tv/YouTube. Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis believed that LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, according to tapes the former first lady recorded just months after her husband's murder, the Daily Mail has reported. Kristal had made a decision to do something about it. When she left around 11 p.m., that would be the last time any of her family or friends would see her alive, with concerned co-workers calling the police on Monday, Oct. 24, when she failed to show up for work. And Payne was right in the middle of it. [30], In fall 2019, Payne Lindsey announced and released the first episode of a new podcast that features true stories with a fictional backdrop, Radio Rental. As it stands, only rumors remain and a $20,000 reward for information leading to the closing of the case. Payne has made an informed guess, though. My pockets are already stuffed with confetti. So why did he come forward now? Could they be talking about Payne. I tried digging in deeper to understand why but I couldn't find a clear answer. Did somebody know about this beforehand? But the highlight of his stint on the discussion board had to be this. With Kristanna Loken, Noah Dalton Danby, Stephen Lobo, Sean Owen Roberts. in which I explain how I produce episodes of the podcast. The SWORN podcast, presented by UP AND VANISHED, pulls back the curtain on the criminal justice system exposing the untold stories and hard truths behind major cases, wrongful convictions, controversial legislation, and more. (Yes, it was the name originally bleeped out by Payne in the earlier episode, and no, he has no relation to Ryan.) According to E! After starting his research and initial interviews, he decided to present the project in audio form as a podcast. This information made it to my office, and our case Jason Shoudel was sent out to conduct an interview," Ricketson said during the press conference. A staff writer for All Thats Interesting, Marco Margaritoff has also published work at outlets including People, VICE, and Complex, covering everything from film to finance to technology. . This was a couple of months ago, and doesn't seem to have any connection to Kristal's disappearance unfortunately. The police suspected foul play but no one was ever charged. But there are people who drift in and out of Crestone, a destination New Age spiritual center for travelers around the globe nestled at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains. Thanks, you're on the list! The creator of successful true crime podcasts like Up and . Oops, there was an error sending your message. With Robert Goldberg, John F. Kennedy, Robert Dallek, Lee Harvey Oswald. Shortly after his twelfth episode, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation arrested a man named Ryan Alexander Duke Are you OK?' I didnt know what to expect, he begins after a brief pause. How 'Up and Vanished' Podcast Helped Solve . Lindsey is from Georgia and resides in Atlanta. Throughout our conversation, hes maintained a respectful stoicism that slips away now that we've gravitated to a new topic. As the gag order has kept new information from making its way to the people of Ocilla, the case might as well have frozen over again. Ryan, it turns out, was a former student of Tara's, having graduated three yearsprior to the alleged murder. Unmasked: A True Crime Syndicate/Facebook. There was also talk of the police looking for someone around the same age as Duke, someone who may have acted as an accomplice, a "white rabbit"Payne seemed on the verge of catching. Then, in a separate close up picture, you could see the date written in pen on his palm," Lindsey said in episode 14. Be the first to know about new speakers, sessions, and event locations. (Sources later disputed this in interviews with Payneon the podcast.). After twelve years with no new evidence, no leads, no eyewitnesses, the perpetrator who took Tara must have been confident that he had gotten away with it. The disappearance of Tarain 2005 rocked the small town of Ocilla, which has a population just over 3,000 people. The file is the largest in GBI history, which means that the discovery process of copying, compiling, reviewing, and interpreting everything in it could take months or even years. Since Ive been sharing intel with you, my partners in crime, Ive spoken to some of the most recognizable figures in true crime, and it has been exceptionally cool. I asked, Is it good news? and he nodded, smiled, and just said, Yes. Thats when I let myself believe it.. Still, there had been false leads in the past. Over 3 years two newly ordained curates in a row had locks put on their doors, reported Xxxxxx use of rent to Keenan and he moved them both. As for Up and Vanished, Lindsey and his team decided it was time to take a break and let some of the dust they kicked up settle . So we need to be persistent and make sure we get the whole story about what happened to Tara.. Keenan also told Lindsey that Dready Brian Otten, an acquaintance of his and the man Reisinger had dated before Peloquin, admitted to killing Reisinger in a Facebook message but he oddly refused to share the message with Lindsey. 10:16 | Mar 28th. [4] Lindsey and Wilson connected after Wilson tweeted that he loved Lindsey's podcast, Atlanta Monster.[4]. "Please know that you have had an impact, a significant role in this investigation and I am confident that today we have reached the point where we are in this investigation because of that involvement. The first place I went was the police station. The memory lends a faint excitement to his voice. Bo would admit to his part in it and take a plea, so he doesn't serve any time, and then they would have the reward money.". [7] With an early interest in investigative journalism, Lindsey was inspired to investigate the disappearance of beauty queen and school teacher Tara Grinstead,[9] a well-known cold case in Georgia. [1] He is best known for co-creating and hosting the hit investigative journalist and true crime podcasts Up and Vanished and Atlanta Monster. Were putting together a documentary series based on the story and Up and Vanished, he begins with a deep breath that tells me theres a lot of information coming my way. Though Lindsey couldn't dive into what exactly that "stuff" entails, he seemed confident in the progress being made by the authorities. A sourceclaimed to Lindsey in episode 16 that it was all a plan concocted by Bo, Brooke and her mother to receive the reward money ($100,000, which could go along way in helping Bo repay the money he still owed the U.S. Army). My mission is to bring you exclusive information from some of the most prominent investigators, authors, and podcasters. We are grateful for their contributions and daily collaboration. Despite these hardships, she attended Western State College in Gunnison, Colorado, then studied psychology and sociology at Western Colorado University, where she even taught a course. But what I did know was that I could stir things up. "When she opened the door she had a tear-stained face," McDonald recalled. After ATLANTA MONSTER, I was impressed. In this new investigative series, Lindsey shines light on real-life coverups, and infamous cases, all while leaving the tinfoil hat at the door. Lindsey and his team set up a Go Fund Me for Akasha, known as "Kasha" by her loved ones, to ensure that the 5 year old wouldn't face any additional hardship after losing her mother at such a young age. Kristal Reisinger was born on Nov. 18, 1987, in Phoenix, Arizona. Lindsey realized that he "could produce a podcast at home in my boxers," and created Up and Vanished. The day before the arrest, it seemed like I was the only person reporting on or looking into the case. Maybe it will, maybe it wont., (Informants note: I pressed him for details on his shortlist of cases, so he compromised and divulged two names. Payne Lindsey is an American director, documentary filmmaker, Right Side of the Tree lead singer and podcast host. [26][27] Lindsey had never heard of the case until his business partner, Donald Albright, told him about the murders. He wascharged with tampering with evidence, concealing a death, and hindering the apprehension of a criminal. Inside, she found Reisingers cellphone. I discovered this subreddit last night and noticed there is a lot of hate for Payne Lindsey. Entertainment Television, LLC A Division of NBCUniversal. It makes it harder to be able to track every step that she took during that time.. Tara came over to her house unannounced, and what transpired that day stuck with her forever. At age 23, his dad cut him off and he began focusing on creating and directing videos. for the murder of Tara Grinstead. Up and Vanished premieres Sunday, November 18, at 7 p.m. on Oxygen. [30] The podcast is hosted by a fictional character, a 1980s-era video store employee named Terry Carnation, played by Rainn Wilson. A lot of people didnt believe that was the case, but they were never able to rule it out. 2023 E! That question is the reason why, when Payne was researching cases to feature on his new podcast, Taras was the one he was most drawn to. Like is the singularity we all share. This documentary attempts to separate fact from conspiracy theories to get to the truth. So they wanted answers. Was there a way to have solved this 10 or 12 years ago? The podcast recreated the atmosphere, and it began to feel again like it must have felt immediately after Taras disappearance: everywhere you go, someone is talking about it. During his court hearing on Feb. 23,Ryan was officiallycharged with burglary, aggravated assault, murder, and concealing a death. Were sorting through hundreds of emails people have sent us with suggestions and, unfortunately, theres no shortage. Your source for entertainment news, celebrities, celeb news, and celebrity gossip. And maybe because of a little luck. In fact, Catfish was one of the primary subject's of the season finale as he once again spoke with Lindsey on a lengthy call. He wrote: I think the GBI's done a great job. Peloquin said that Kristal Reisinger told him on June 28 she was drugged and raped at Keenans house and that she recognized only two of the many men involved. A few days later, however, she vanished. During season one's year-long journey, Payne, self-described "millennial podcaster,", played a major part in the arrest of Ryan Alexander Duke and Bo Dukes, those two men charged with the murder. Under the (very weird) circumstances, it felt impossible that nobody in this tiny town knew what happened for over a decade. Please try again later or email us at rsvp@crimecon.com and we can manually add you to the list. What she found there no one knows for sure. Until he arrived in Ocilla the day the news broke. They began to suspect foul play. She is majoring in psychology, with her focus on the Autism Spectrum Disorder. Kristal Reisinger has been missing since 2016. Ryan A. Residents demanded answers and justice for Tara and her family. to. ", So according to Bo, Ryan killed Tara, and then asked him for help disposing the body, burning and burying it on his family's pecan orchard. Its been a frantic time and a very active investigation for the GBI, he answers my non-question about how he so quickly transitioned between roles. She wanted them to be accountable for their actions and thats when she went missing.. Reisinger said she would consider McDonalds advice to call the police. Cut to March 3, 2017, when a second suspect was arrested: Bo Dukes. He was receiving threats from Ocilla locals, unhappy with things said on the podcast. She returned home and then disappeared just days later. Im looking forward to meeting listeners, seeing other podcasters whom I admire, finding out what Nancy Grace is like in person, he ends with a slight, but not disrespectful, chuckle. Payne published twelve well-researched, impeccably-produced episodes of Up and Vanished before that stir grew into a vortex of new information. 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