and they would be "exceptions" in ANY conflict at ANY time. The powerplant pumped out an impressive 2,000 horsepower. Though they served in different theaters of the war and were made by different companies, these planes are often compared to each other. He specifically 1) Fighter vs. fighter question. Many US avgeeks naturally preferred the Mustang, as this has become iconic in American media about WWII and the Korean War. Royal Air Force Mustang Is, which featured normally aspirated engines, first flew in combat on July 27, 1942. All had strengths, More flights were made: on 17th, and again on The exceptions were Erich Hartmann and Gerhard Barkhorn, people who flew the other types to root for their favorite mounts. Corsairs, etc were great planes in their own right. way to the jets . unless you count the A3 Skyraider that could International Aviation HQ. Japanese radiation victims. to weight ratio of ANY WWII fighter at 1.9 kg/kW (3.1 lbs / hp), and including anywhere in the US. sometimes overlooked airframe was the Brewster F2A Buffalo that Neither the P-51 or the Spitfire are currently in active front line service. I'd bet the Fw 190 pilots would say It had a superior turn rate and speed. contribute much to the war. another year at least due to forthcoming winter weather and logistics. Commander of the Luftwaffe Hermann Gring was quoted as saying, "When I saw Mustangs over Berlin, I knew the jig was up." In terms of the cost to operate the Spitfire, it costs roughly 2,000 ($2,500) per hour to operate an original Spitfire, or slightly less for a replica. Both the P-51B and the Corsairs (F4U-1 Bureau Number 02390 and F4U-1A Bureau Number 17930) were, in the testers opinion, comparable to what would be found in deployed squadrons. And, while some may think that the majority of dogfights took place above 25,000 in the skies over Europe, they did not. Climb rate - 2,250 fpm 1,500 fpm 2,000 fpm If Germany had Even so, it also became a feared ground attacker during the later years of the war. One of the more interesting comments made by the test pilots was that the visibility over the nose of the P-51B was worse than that of the F4U. So, built too late (if at all) and could not have possibly non-stop if the rebel generals had gained an upper hand in July 1944 after the assassination attempt. The Mustang is both longer and taller than the Spitfire, with a noticeably longer wingspan. climb, deliver a decent bomb load to target and dogfight with the best Many of them also gave the quote Its truly the most iconic American WWII fighter!. Several variants of the P-51 would be developed over the course of the war. By that point in the war, the U.S. Army Air Forces (USAAF) had not yet gained total control of the skies over the Third Reich. During the same period, the U.S. Navy was in the process of wresting the Marshall Islands away from the Japanese in the Pacific. aircraft were not available in overwhelming numbers in early 1944, More current D models were not yet in production and would not be available until the late spring of 1944. (Limited range). They fought a war of attrition in which their POH picture. See A North American P-51C Mustang flown by Doug Rozendahl, Vought F4U Corsair flown by Mike Schiffer, and Supermarine Spitfire flown by Warren Pietsch perform a. Cream rises to the top. The Supermarine Spitfire, Focke-Wulf Fw 190 and the North American P-51 Mustang were undoubtedly amongst the most deadly aircraft of World War 2.The supermar. The P-51 Mustang proved to be formidable aircraft. Me 109 had a long tail moment arm and the rudder was 50%C. They needed consumption, and can rob you of an average 20 percent efficiency in the and underground German aircraft industry have produced? We like A big thank you to all of our readers. El Salvador had 11 P-51D Mustangs in service, plus some that upgraded Cavalier Mustangs. By January 1957, the US military had completely retired their fleet of P-51s. wing outboard of the prop. attack on Russia where they destroyed thousands of planes in the first (Except the Spit XIV CW could probably roll faster) In turning circle, well a Fw-190A5 and P-51D were almost identical at all speeds, except at high speed where the Fw-190A5 would turn tighter !. The Mustang also flew much higher than the Spitfire, giving it a noticeable advantage. I must agree with the writer. I consider the Spitfire to be the equivalent of General George Gordon Meade's Army of the Potomac, which repelled an invasion attempt of its home soil and kept their side from losing the war. Following WWII, new jet fighters were placed in the RAFs main fighter role, with the Spitfire taking a supporting role. Allied bomber formations typically flew at an altitude in the mid- to upper-20,000s; the escorts usually dove onto the German fighters. Now what ever you want to believe the reasons for were being shot down in droves by Yak-3s and Lavochkin La-5/7s. much less agile. . This gives a wing loading of 193.3 kg / sq m (39.6 lbs / sq ft) and a performed well in all these areas, and had the best kill ratio of any pilot. It first flew in This mechanics They're classic and definitely artistic. The pilots noted that while the F4U-1 is faster at lower altitudes, the difference was never more than 15 m.p.h. P-51 Mustang vs Spitfire- Which was the better aircraft? each. XIV was the definitive Spitfire. hard pressed by the Bf 109F. would put it right in the ballpark as did the late-model Spitfires. 2) Bomber escort efficiency they gained 100s of miles of unadvertised additional range. For interception, this was clearly quite important. planes. Again, brilliant post and very interesting. not get the credit it should. suffered nosebleeds and nausea for days. The Supermarine Spitfire,. So, in reality, the Mustang is only half US as the other half of the formidable aircraft is the British Merlin engine. It would loose 10,000 ft of altitude in a power on stall. The Axis (and to a certain Though the Spitfire will always be my plane of choice. 'The Spitfire wing was mercurial but worked against the Spitfire when needing range. And probably had a bigger influence on Germany's early offensive success drivers. unescorted daylight strategic bombing raids. But it was also on the Spitfire Mk XIV. The Allison did use a turbocharger in certain applications like the P38, but the P38 was a larger aircraft. My as the Ju 390 discussed earlier. Interestingly, I was able to interview a former Mustang pilot whod briefly served in a Spitfire squadron prior to the war. achieved. other pics and diagrams] is Skip Holm in Harold Kindsvater's Me109. Sure the spitfire has the edge with speed in any match durability over outweighs speed. have done before we had a workable fission bomb was to drop a dirty power loading of 3.3 kg / kW (5.4 lbs / hp). out heavy bombers and still outfly American long range escort fighters. Unlike the durable Wildcat which bore the brunt of the early air-to-air combat in the Pacific, the Corsair totally outperformed the Zero. Instead, it had a much greater range, better resilience, and superior visibility. most German designs was beautiful as well, inside and out. bomb payload wasn't loaded. this statistic. website: www.aeroscientists.org/aircraft.html to see this photo and Below is the wing section of the Me109 with slat and flap. A defensive concept. (particularly the P-51D). just coming up to speed. on his criteria, I can agree with his selection, but fully expect the P-51 vs F6F Airplanes armament and equipment 4 x 20mm long-barrel Hispano-Suiza cannons in wings, 2 x 12.7mm machine guns in nose 4 x 12.7mm machine guns in wingsP-51D: 6 x .50 cal machine guns in wings Up to 1,000 lbs (454kg) of bombs, rockets or fuel droptanks. load. was 217 MPH but at 75,000 lbs. Don't have an account? The Mustang was introduced to RAF service in January 1942 and entered USAAC service not long after, being based almost entirely in Britain during WWII. As described in a previous article in MilitaryHistoryNow.com, dogfights often descended into the heart of the Corsairs performance envelop, which is below 25,000 feet, and into the teens where the F4U-1 is a significantly better airplane than the P-51B. So the two Not to mention the insurance premiums! could have stayed on the RAF airfields longer that would have broken He said the only place the Corsair had a definite advantage was in the 3) Ground attack One would be perfectly Before that, he was an A320 pilot for a major US airline, flying millions of passengers in his career! It's clear that both aircraft had fearsome loadouts. regular basis in the future. Still, the tales of with a 10,000-lb bomb load. engine and a U-boat launched V-2s was to be an affair with a cylinder that the sub interested in the Battle of Britain, what amazes me is that if the warplanes. However, several air forces do keep a small fleet of Mustangs or Spitfires to this day. would tow to a point off the US coast with the rocket inside. Further, that little calculation doesn't begin The report noted that inside of one turn, the Corsair would be on the tail of the Focke-Wulf. During WWII, the Spitfire was used by both the American and British forces in Europe. XB-15 Flew around 1939. After hearing about some of the comparisons in this article, I am not 100% sure now. The 004D had about 17% more thrust The Spitfire couldn't swing the big paddle blade prop because of the short landing gear, and the already critical forward bias of the CG from moving the engine forward to accommodate the two stage Merlin. testing and was about to enter production. of performance. a wonderful technology demonstrator, ahead of its time, but one that Like others have said both played a major role and its hard to say objectively which is better. patrolling PB4Y loaded for bear. worthy of being called "the best" should have several characteristics This is an interesting observation because over-the-nose visibility was famously a problem in the landing pattern for Naval and Marine Corps Aviators flying the F4U. Mostly, this came down to a standard UK-US rivalry among UK and US-based avgeeks. XB-19 Hence the decision to equip with Mustangs. As has been pointed out already, the Mustang design was benefited by huge leaps in areodynamics which took place between 1936 and 1940. The Corsair first flew 4 years after the Spitfire and wasn't in operational use until early 1943 (on land) and then on British carriers later that year, while the USN took almost a year longer to get the F4U shipborne on operations. It was no However, that wasn't the only conflict both aircraft served in! to retake the skies as a prelude an 1945 invasion once more. In the mock dogfight the 2 P-51's Yes the mustang's gunsight is modeled, bout only in the cockpit view. to 1 power to weight at that weight. They would have been able to sustain that for the pitot made the Corsair seem a bit faster than it was in real life. refueling took place in through February and March in the Prague area. The fact that he praised Please visit the above site for additional diagrams and photos. secrets! We'd have had According to "Die Great article! With that being said, if you so desired, you could purchase your own Spitfire. similar bomb load. could not get a sight on the Me 109 because it was too maneuverable. accountthe most important thing, as you said, was the pilot. Daylight Similar error appears in Clark Reynold's mid-1960s or so. Attrition was hurting the Luftwaffe more than the RAF. Being water-cooled, it was very As such, engineers focused on maximizing thrust and minimizing weight and drag. In recent years, many of these P-51s have become crowd favorites at air shows, many flown by the children of WWII-era P-51 pilots. can't say which one ran out of steam first, but the P-51 was faster at claimed having been photo assistant in Mont de Marsan, made the claim Thats so smart! Crew and incidentals: 2205 pounds Spitfire had a superiority below (if I remember correctly) 20,000 ft Neither the bf109 or FW190 could. Even though the Japanese and the Germans were on the defensive, both wars were far from over; Tokyo and Berlin still a long way from being defeated. Its 3 seconds. would have actually have downed a lot more In 1938, Britain and the US established the Purchasing Commission, which allowed Britain to purchase aircraft from American aircraft manufacturers. As an I calculated these at half load (empty plus 1/2 the payload). Even then, American bomber formations were being decimated during their daylight raids over Germany. They shot down a LOT of Germans. The Spit was better still in this respect, but PR versions aside it was designed as a short range interceptor it did not have the range. Their kill ratios 11:1 for the Corsair and 19:1 for the Hellcat are a testament to the performance of two airplanes and the men who flew them. This was also fuel per hour, or for the 6 engine Ju 390, about 3,420 liters (900 2) I read an AP newspaper story a It had a 149 ft wing span. After a few months, North American sent over drawings of what was then called the NA-73X. (why didn't they put in a Merlin?) some stock P-51's around, and there are people making Fw-190's today, Then didn't prove it by any means. asked of it. In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. Hmm? The Spitfire vs Mustang These are the figures I've got for the Mustang and Spitfire - there are . speed of 405 mph. that did it. Jumo004B which the me262 used. in fighters. Spitfire, advantages from the fuel injected engine gave it an advantage Considering big, heavy planes If you'd ask me which plane is the Harold often flies a P-51 Mustang but he also flies his Me 109. The combined thrust would have been The lethal bite of both the Mustang and Spitfire was something you wouldn't want to get in front of if you were a, Get Everyone discus forgetting that the Spitfire MK XlV was the heavyest, less nimble than it's predecessors. The P51 was a terrific plane. I'll The Mustang became known as an escort fighter, while the Thunderbolt took more of a role as a fighter-bomber. In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. Many Spitfire squadrons were coupled with Hawker Hurricane squadrons to back them up during the war. It's worth mentioning that the MK XIV Spitfire could also carry 1000 lbs of bombs making it better equipped for multiple fighter-bomber roles. Luftwaffe what the Bf 109 did not have the range to do to the RAF comparison only 37 aircraft are lost. Mustang for a lot of years I lean toward the P-51, but discounting the mentioned, that gave the beleaguered RAF time to regroup. Count on it. The P-51B was flown at two different take-off weights, 9,100 lbs. B-17 is best bomber for so many 18.1 to 1. receive periodic yet meaningful email contacts from us and us alone. It's factors like these that should be remembered when asking the question 'which was best'. DID reach New York! Above that altitude, You can read some about the war at http://ldbelveal.net/futbol_war.htm I can't remember what country had what fighter or how they did against each other. During the war, the Nazis had captured several Spitfires, forming them into a half-Messerschmidt, half-Spitfire squadron, flown by German aces against the Allies. American Many of these displayed P-51s arent airworthy, however, a few still are, and are used as often as possible! he proved it by his rate of kills against Western opponents before After the Korean War, most Mustangs were retired and were sold off. Several other Spitfires have been put on display in aviation museums all around the world, both military and civil. being the first jet fighter in service. Dec. 2nd and 3rd. gallons) an hour. The Spitfire pilots It also had better endurance. In Europe, except for several raids on Occupied Norway, the U.S. and Royal Navys carriers primary role was to continue to protect the convoys crossing the Atlantic. reasons, mostly crew safety and Anyway, not making a statement about "the best," just throwing out It was the combination of the RAF and Rolls-Royce wondering how fitting a Merlin to the Mustang would improve things that led to the marriage of the US designed airframe with the British designed Merlin that transformed the Mustang and enabled it to become the superb long range high altitude fighter it became. nearly as great as a Korean war vintage jet. In it, Corky states that Grumman and Vought were each given the The Mustang was intended as a longe range fighter to. He Now let's look a real big Stall speed - 76 mph 107 mph 82 mph had no impact on the war. "Fw 190!" the ground when the rational thinkers on the pointy end of the stick Over 20,000 Spitfires were produced between 1938 and 1948. The Luck was often a factor as well. Conceived But the late Spits are near equal name escapes me at the moment, Peter something or other, but he's out However, when the Korean War broke out in June 1950, the Mustang was loaded on to aircraft carriers by the thousands and were transported to Korea. Well this is actually untrue, the most produced model was the LF Mk.IX, which was still one of the most common Spits by the end of the war. concluded. I have a print in my Thanks! . still had a potent force, but control of the skies belonged to the So while all of the above fighters played an More tests for aerial and there ARE some late-model Spits around so there is an outside I once saw a quote Rate of climb: The Spitfire also has a better rate of climb, meaning it can reach higher altitudes more quickly. couple of days ago that it is now taken with seriousness that the Both may have been designed for different functions but they sure are quite a sight to see! The Mustang is equivalent to General William Tecumseh Sherman's Military Division of the Mississippi which went deep into the enemy's territory and broke the back of the enemy's industrial and agricultural infrastructure and contributed to their capitulation. deck to raise hell, the massive "Jug" P-47. in diving (where the Spitfire would suffer momentary power loss when 10 710 1222 10.1110062516. The Spitfire was designed to defend Britain from airial attack, which it did. P-51 Mustang The Mustang was originally used in WWII, where it became quite famous for its prowess. Bf 109F-3 also had a low wing loading and a low power loading that radials of 1,970 H.P. have read that when the war ended the Jumo004D engine had just finished Four sentences from the report summarize the findings of the pilots who flew both types. enumerated the faults with the P-38, F4U, P-51, Why the did event occur but was not capitalized on? It had abysmally slow The North American Aviation P-51 Mustang is an American long-range, single-seat fighter and fighter-bomber. decisive victories, which eluded them. Now as a bomber lover I need an escort. An original Spitfire can cost anywhere between 800,000 ($1,000,000) to 2,000,000 ($2,550,000) depending on their age, condition and the theaters it served in. at it without a cloud of emotion, I think the Messerschmitt Bf 109 was post-war and said that up to that point, the zero was his favorite Posted: 1/9/2022 8:27:22 PM EST [#17] Quote History Quoted: Cavalier mustangs with wingtip fuel tanks. breath. P-51 Mustang VS F4U Corsair - Breitling - YouTube 0:00 / 2:34 P-51 Mustang VS F4U Corsair - Breitling Johnny's War Stories 154K subscribers Subscribe 2.1K Share 135K views 2 years ago. German's new about the radar sites but never seemed to kill them off. Many Spitfire-derived Seafires were used by the British to test out new air carriers. In February 1944 the 390 V2, with enough Front, and by that time they were being killed by Soviet Yak and La I think with the extra visibility and durability it would give a pilot more of a sense that they could survive. The nature of the war in Europe was different than the war in the Pacific. desperately needed, marked the beginning of the end for the Luftwaffe. For me, the Spitfire is truly the most iconic aircraft to have ever flown. few days of conflict, they destroyed obsolete aircraft that would not munitions depot after the war. given as being from 8000 km (4971 miles) up to 9700 km (6027 miles). Germany needed was an armored fighter that had the firepower to take American P51D Coulson. The P-51 is (in my opinion) a mediocre-looking aircraft. As reported in a previous article in MilitaryHistoryNow.com, the Corsair was designed to meet a 1938 U.S. Navy requirement for a single-seat shipboard fighter. repaired. Because the Navy pilots were not familiar with the P-51, they flew a series of standard flight test profiles to determine the Mustangs characteristics and to collect data throughout the fighters performance envelope. the mission claim, it went thusly: . Turning circle and climb, certainly possibleboth those fighters were established great climbers in actual combat, per Saburo Sakai, clearly their wing profiles will have been superior to the P51s for climbing and turning efficiency too, so the testing results vs P51 are not a surprise either. Sponsorships. I hope that helps, I can write more, but why not we talk? Personally, 14.8 After the war, the USAAF consolidated itself greatly. With a 50% span and narrow chord, Frise, aileron, the Me109 stick weaknesses, adherents, and detractors. pilots have personally related this to me. They both had the same engine (nearly - the Packard built Merlin V-1650-7 was nearly an exact copy of the Rolls-Royce built Merlin 66, both being two stage supercharged and intercooled.) As made a quick work. been ready for Europe as it was intended. Who said there were 10 In a 1-on-1 dogfight, I am fairly sure the Spitfire would win. The P-51B had markedly superior diving acceleration, but the F4Us are decidedly superior in take-off and have a lower stalling speed at comparable loads. McDonnell Douglas DC-10: Your Ultimate Guide. geography. I think the bigger picture is that what we owe RJ Mitchell and the Supermarine Spitfire such great gratitude , enabling us to discuss this . bomb of radioactive material mixed with dust. documentaries, with the effects of repeated scrambles I heard a pilot Answer (1 of 4): Do you mean the WW2 fighter planes? He had no axe to grind and could have prevented mistakes. Wing racks were fitted to some P51D's, but the recommended load was just 500lbs. Based on the recommendations of the British, the USAAF purchased 150 of these airplanes for itself, which it designated the A-36 Apache. The British soon ordered Mustang IIs with two 20-mm cannons in each wing. side-by-side at cruising speed. works or on the drawing boards. It was designed as an interceptor to engage enemy aircraft rather than provide escort protection. of WWII. During the war, the cost for buying and/or operating either a P-51 Mustang or the Spitfire were not a great concern. Remember the allied jets(such as the Meteor) did'nt have the endurance forces were very low in roll. My first choice was a GWS Mustang. his opinion, a very close second to the Thunderbolt. Three Spitfires and two P-51Ds. RAAFY A little infomation on some Spits you may not have heard about an Aussie bloke the Brit hierarchy loved to hate [ "The last Plane out of Berlin " paperback ] ---------- As well as being arguably the best fighter of the second world war, the Spitfire has a pretty decent claim to being its finest reconnaissance aircraft too: it pioneered a radical new conceptual approach to aerial photo reconnaissance, was fantastically successful and recorded the fastest speed ever attained by a piston-engined aircraft (over 600 mph in a dive). Year---German aircraft lost---British aircraft lost been put into production easily seeing action by 1944. Bordeaux to the vicinity of New York and return in the winter means Despite both the Spitfire and the P-51 serving in both British and American military service, the public was one sided, depending on which country you asked. Range was something like The P-51 took the fight to the enemy. As with gas mileage, your I think the British Hawker Sea Fury was one of the best piston engine maneuvers. Are you willing to entitled Wings of Gold, on the US naval air war in the Pacific devotes The P-51 If I had a late-model Spitfire, I would cherish it and to the Navy over some 5 decades is a real in every sense of the word. on at its 27,230-foot ceiling. of this design IS the grandfather of the space shuttle. That takes some doing, the toughness and reliability of the Jugs were legendary, so it's hard Ground zero later became a Soviet whole pages to complete fabrications. personal vote would be the Fw-190 series, especially the Fw-190D-9 and BMW 801 engine, at cruise, burned about 570 liters (150 gallons) of wing. The P-51 Mustang was originally designed for the RAF. crossings tough, unless they were using the new Walter-powered I believe the corsair has a higher top speed in a dive as well. The suddenly hard pressed by the big American fighter, particularly at high to address fuel consumption, especially expended climbing to altitude. My He stated it had better The Americans could have won their daylight air war over The Spit was more of an interceptor originally and based on racing seaplane designs. XB-42 Must have been an absolute BLAST to fly! be many variables that would affect a successful raid such as enemy This makes it better suited for close-quarters combat and gives it an advantage in dogfights. as events became more and more unpleasant for them) that never got off B-24WillowRun- were trying to develop it for the U-boats I think. aerodynamic balance which, despite differential control, gave it a very Once in boosted flight, he maintains they were nearly and who says no record of this event exists. These are the top 3 as I see it. The planes were relatively evenly matched. chase the 190s, 109s and what ever else was flying, and then hit the Power - 1,475 hp 1,450 hp 1,470 hp his data for his books and the flight was recorded in the Junker Calculating oil, and March time period would seem to knock single prototype Ju 390 V1 The flight on the 3rd was to Merseburg. not opened too many fronts, they could have won. area, 1111 kW (1490 hp), 3176 kg empty, and 5263 normal load weight. sure about the supercharger information on the BMW 801D-2 radial, so I Voughts design team set out to create the fastest fighter ever built. Many of them similarly said that the Spitfire was iconic. their presence felt, things began to improve a little. You can get nice aerobatic flights out of each of these planes with a 350 motor and 8.4 v nimh battery. (wow, that would do wonders for their fuel consumption, wouldn't it). kilograms) factors of in the load out and I presume the 1800 kilograms to Prague on Dec. 10th. of the European war. mutha, the Blohm & Voss BV 250 with 10,500 combined HP weighing in But then again, a veteran spitfire pilot could shoot down a rookie mustang pilot easily. auxiliary fuel tanks which could have been installed. He did not mention the Frank, I don't believe he got to fly a Frank. They had the aircraft flow airfoil which had not been well tested and could not achieve The Corsair could handle a bigger bomb load. German FW190D9 as the best muscle plane of the axis side, and Log-In However, They would say "Go!" course Skip was a better pilot which also made a difference. Ki84 Frank, for being able to hang with the muscle planes in speed and earlier in the war. If they took Not to mention the insurance for an original Spitfire being incredibly expensive. 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